Notes on the Palm Call

by Kris_Tuttle on December 19, 2008

Stream of con­scious­ness from the Palm call.…full tran­script is avail­able here.

[This GAAP/non-GAAP thing is a huge use­less pain for every­one.  Takes tons of time an does noth­ing but obfuscate.]

Smart­phone busi­ness not too bad.  Hand­helds obvi­ously down the drain but now pretty small.

Gross mar­gins down 6pts sequen­tially! No expan­sion likely in Q3.

Oper­at­ing expenses are com­ing down nicely, should hit low-mid $90M range soon.

Non-GAAP loss of $80M and Adjusted EBITDA loss of $55M.  (What large NOL car­ry­for­wards you have grandma!)

Cash at $224M, inven­tory, and A/R all okay.

Sounds like this is close to the bot­tom for the com­pany with the Feb­ru­ary quar­ter offer­ing the most lik­ley bot­tom IF the new prod­uct strat­egy works start­ing in fis­cal Q4.

It’s tough out there. Matur­ing prod­uct line, con­sumer spend­ing tough, spend­ing on new prod­ucts adding to expenses but not yet ramp­ing.  Trans­lates into a “few rough months ahead.”

New plat­form is near­ing com­ple­tion and first phone will launch in the first half of 09 as planned. Believes it will “stand out” in the marketplace. 

For now Treo Pro con­tin­ues to do okay, rolling out to new mar­kets.  Thinks their abil­ity to con­trol soft­ware and hard­ware will help them long-term in the mar­ket.  Claims car­ri­ers are excited. [Could be an inter­est­ing alter­na­tive for carriers.]

Smart­phones will con­tinue to be gain­ing share as it is still early days here.  [We agree.]

Q&A starts…

Sell in and sell through mostly bal­anced.  Some inven­tory write-downs should put com­po­nent WIP in line.  Cash burn will be UP in the next quarter.

Some dis­cus­sion of it being “too late” for a new phone plat­form.  [We agree with man­age­ment that is still early in the game.]

Treo Pro still plugs away in the cur­rent quar­ter and will roll out at a major US car­rier this Q as well. All in front of the new prod­uct launch.

Com­pany has auc­tion rate secu­ri­ties but there is zero liq­uid­ity in the mar­ket right now.

[Con­fer­ence call drink­ing game for the hol­i­days? –  “chal­lenged envi­ron­ment” or “chal­leng­ing environment.”]

[Pretty good live cov­er­age by the major Street ana­lysts on the call. Clearly they are inter­ested in catch­ing a poten­tial turn at Palm if one mate­ri­al­izes.  That’s a plus.]

They are going to be aggres­sive at mar­ket­ing and pro­mo­tion for the new prod­ucts and be heav­ily dis­count­ing older prod­ucts so mar­gins will be under pres­sure.  So Cen­tros are going to be get­ting very cheap while the Treo Pro ramps and they work on the new platform.

Man­age­ment states they will return to prof­itabil­ity in 2010 but mum on when exactly. Long term gross mar­gin goal is between 33% and 36%. 

Won’t get into what fea­tures might dif­fer­en­ti­ate the new Palm offer­ing.  Is it graph­ics, key­boards, appli­ca­tions? No light shed on it.  Main­tains goal of hav­ing “the most com­pelling plat­form and prod­uct on the mar­ket.“  Hard to believe but they are aim­ing high anyway.

By Q4 of F09 their OpEx goal is mid-to-low 90M run rate.  Com­pany has $224M in cash and will man­age all cash expenses very care­fully in the Q.  Claims they could raise addi­tional cash if they needed to but that would only be to fur­ther drive ini­tia­tives rather than dig a deeper hole.

One last com­ment that Win­dows Mobile will con­tinue to be their plat­form of choice for enteprise appli­ca­tions is inter­est­ing.  Does it imply that all the new stuff com­ing will be con­sumer only and that they will need to con­tinue to invest heav­ily in Win­dows Mobile?  Will a Palm device work on both plat­forms or are we talk­ing full sep­a­ra­tion here.

It’s going to be a volatile story the next few months.  Clearly the new plat­form is a major turn­ing point and with the num­ber of mov­ing parts the stock may not appeal to most.  But with a mar­ket cap of $240M, $224M in cash and $400M in run rate rev­enues it’s an inter­est­ing stock.  With listed options the stock can be used like a non-expiring call option to imple­ment some strategies.

[Dis­clo­sure: We have a small posi­tion in PALM at the time of this writing.]

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